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#4,821
01-17-2017, 11:20 PM
(01-17-2017, 11:12 PM)Alan Partridge Wrote: Eagerly awaiting Trumps tweet on this Trump DuckFace

Manning is a traitor and should be executed! Assange is a hero and should be released! Unfair!
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01-18-2017, 12:19 AM
(01-17-2017, 11:02 PM)Alan Partridge Wrote: Even if she did, she has still spent 7 years in jail. A lot of it in terrible conditions. I'm not sure what there is to gain from keeping her in there and her inevitable suicide in the coming months.

At the end of the day he stole documents from the US Army and jeopardised national security. I'm not too sure 7 years is really ample punishment for that.

Whistleblowing is a funny one, and what's in the publics interest to know is pretty subjective. He released 750,000 documents, and without knowing exactly what they all were it's hard to comment but I'm sure it was reported at the time that he had been posting documents with personal information of spies and agents who were still on active duty. Depending on where they are in the world that's essentially handing out a death sentence.

Acey had replied that was 'fake news' so fuck knows. Sure I read it on sky or something.
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01-18-2017, 12:21 AM
My "fake news" thing just meant that, afaik, there's no evidence that a single person came to harm as a result of Manning's leaks (beyond Manning herself).
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01-18-2017, 12:23 AM
(01-18-2017, 12:21 AM)Linda Bean Wrote: My "fake news" thing just meant that, afaik, there's no evidence that a single person came to harm as a result of Manning's leaks (beyond Manning herself).

That doesn't mean there wasn't the potential for it to happen though, if in fact those were documents that were released.
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01-18-2017, 12:32 AM
Ok, but the argument that the public interest in reading the information is outweighed by security concerns becomes incredibly weak when nobody gets hurt as a result.
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01-18-2017, 12:37 AM
Do you think information regarding defence and how operations are conducted in wars should be public knowledge?
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01-18-2017, 12:38 AM
Whistleblowers should be valued by society, particularly today. Have you seen the most famous video that came out? The civilians and reporters being slaughtered by a US helicopter? I think human rights outweigh US military intelligence.

The UN described her initial containment as torture and she's served 7 years in a male prison with numerous suicide attempts.

That's plenty, as they say. Monty Oh Well
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01-18-2017, 12:54 AM
mental video. Now that was a whistle-blow.
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01-18-2017, 07:14 AM
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Bit transphobic Morph. Woy Not Sure
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01-18-2017, 07:55 AM
(01-18-2017, 12:32 AM)Linda Bean Wrote: Ok, but the argument that the public interest in reading the information is outweighed by security concerns becomes incredibly weak when nobody gets hurt as a result.

I am not sure we'd ever have found out if a spy was caught and killed because of this TBH.
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01-18-2017, 07:59 AM
(01-18-2017, 07:55 AM)TheMaganator2.0 Wrote: I am not sure we'd ever have found out if a spy was caught and killed because of this TBH.

Are you saying that the CIA wouldn't inform an ex fatty, bald, HR lawyer from lochgelly about the number of its agents compromised by those leaks?
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01-18-2017, 09:03 AM
(01-18-2017, 07:59 AM)Drederick Bjorntum Wrote: Are you saying that the CIA wouldn't inform an ex fatty, bald, HR lawyer from lochgelly about the number of its agents compromised by those leaks?

That is what I am saying, yes. Unless Acey is actually a spy himself and has insider info!!!
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01-18-2017, 09:12 AM
Acey is more of an aspy amirite Smug
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01-18-2017, 09:15 AM
Neggied Tatum for his repetitive and hurtful comments, and Mags for associating himself with them. Monty Oh Well

Don't think "Well OBVIOUSLY they wouldn't tell us if their predictions of doom for intelligence personnel overseas had proved to be correct or not, even in non-specific terms" really works as an argument, boys. Monty But
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01-18-2017, 09:18 AM
If you were going to choose someone to be an undercover agent you'd probably go with the most inconspicuous, apparently weedy and insignifcant guy around.
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01-18-2017, 09:25 AM
Been forced to administer Acey with a retaliatory neggy.

I do not think that it is unreasonable to assume that the intelligence services would not send out a world-wide missive stating that a spy had been killed as a result of an already embarrassing security leak.
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01-18-2017, 09:31 AM
He simply would not have had his sentence cut if that was the case.
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01-18-2017, 09:38 AM (Edited 01-18-2017, 09:38 AM by King WillDred of Orange.)
(01-18-2017, 09:25 AM)TheMaganator2.0 Wrote: Been forced to administer Acey with a retaliatory neggy.

I do not think that it is unreasonable to assume that the intelligence services would not send out a world-wide missive stating that a spy had been killed as a result of an already embarrassing security leak.

Sad acey would lash out like that I've pozzyd you mags to make you for it.

Begged acey as well, for being unable to face the truth.
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01-18-2017, 09:47 AM
(01-18-2017, 09:31 AM)Alan Partridge Wrote: He simply would not have had his sentence cut if that was the case.

Not if this was all about public perception. I don't think it would make a difference.
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01-18-2017, 10:01 AM
She's a she now, guys. No reason to feel uncomfortable using the correct pronoun, there's no confusion.
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