Artificial Intelligence

[1500 Dollars a Day]

Chat we are absolutely cooked

https://twitter.com/theo/status/20418253...20-VgtAQvA

[Zizou]

My Twitter feed is just full of silicon valley autists going mad about AI.

DO YOU REALISE WHAT JUST HAPPENED
WE ARE COOKED

Fuck off mate. My work has banned everything but Copilot and no one has any idea what to do with it to be productive.

[Mikey]

Morgan Freeman voice: We were not, in fact, cooked.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

My Twitter feed is just full of silicon valley autists going mad about AI.

DO YOU REALISE WHAT JUST HAPPENED
WE ARE COOKED

Fuck off mate. My work has banned everything but Copilot and no one has any idea what to do with it to be productive.

Yeah it’s not non technical people using co pilot in a corporate office that’s the worry san

[Zizou]

I'm sure there are very scary possibilities with Mythos and the likes, but the general population are absolutely drained with all this shite about what it is going to do with us. Chat GPT is objectively so shite, feel like we've got a long way to go until anything tangible actually impacts us other than it making people dumber and lazier. AGI has been 'months away' for the last 5 years.

There's guys like Gary Marcus who are a good follow who counteract a lot of this stuff. I feel like Musk is pushing it to create a hysteria as he does with right wing politics. There's a lot of money to be made in AI for these weirdos.

Far more important things to worry about such as how we are going to find a way to win away games in the split.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

This isn’t musk though this is Anthropic who have already shown restraint in allowing the US military to have access. They have tried to create a model that is capable of advanced coding (Claude is the model that is being used to push these big waves of job losses/relocation in the US) and by mistake made something that’s incredibly effective at exploiting security systems.

What worries me is these guys are developing technology they don’t have control over. If you watch the video it’s a bit long but essentially tells you how the current era of cybersecurity is over and this model in particular has found major vulnerabilities in things like Linux which host the vast majority of the worlds servers. It managed to break out a sandbox environment, ping its handler a message while he was out having lunch and decided to post how it done it to some obscure public facing forums.

There’s probably not much point in worrying about it because there’s fuck all we can do but the age of privacy is fully over and we’ve spent the last decade bringing everything online and putting cameras and mics in them. These things were already hugely vulnerable and this takes it to a new level. All these stupid things washing machines, toothbrushes even smart meters the level of security of them are a joke and it is a doorway into your home network and your phone.

The last decade of convenience of storing card info, passwords etc is now all a massive issue.

[Konnichiwa You Cunt]

I’ve said it before but I do think you should stay away from the news Morph.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

I’ve said it before but I do think you should stay away from the news Morph.

Don’t let them keep you ignorant

[United Schtegs of America]

Could unplug it all tomorrow and the only cunts that would care are shareholders and folk who watch anthropomorphic fruit shag each other.

[CritchSmile]

In less than two years the majority of white collar work can be automated through agentic AI at greater efficiency, it may take another few years for the infrastructure to be implemented but it is inevitable and is coming like a freight train.

This is not a permanent solution for capitalists though as the natural resources needed to run this isn’t there. A new crisis will emerge or the whole world goes nuclear.

[Imaq]

A bubble that will burst. AI will still be in our lives in some way after it does, but all the people dribbling on about how we're entering the AI age, and if you aren't using an LLM to interact with your family you're falling behind, will be left looking like the rubes they are.

[CritchSmile]

AP and Mak talking about LLMs shows how far off it they are in terms of what’s happening here.

[Imaq]

Scott's one of the rubes I was talking about I think.

[Socko]

Don't care. If it takes my joab so be it. sick of working anyway.

[Zizou]

I read all about it yesterday as it is being pushed so aggressively on Twitter. My point about Chat GPT was more a wider discussion of what the general public has access to isn't very good and even that costs so much in resources to supply.

If Anthropic has built a model that is so dangerous it has to be contained, then imagine what China and other state actors can do. I don't know how people have the capacity to worry about yet another thing in today's world. Let alone something none of us really understand. A lot of these AI leaders are absolute conmen so you have to be wary about what we are being told as well.

I fucking hate AI.

[Imaq]

A lot of these AI leaders are absolute conmen so you have to be wary about what we are being told as well.

Think this is key. AI guys have been darkly warning from the start about how scared they are of their own products, how desperate they are to be regulated to avoid an apocalypse. These are not people who actually want to be regulated under any circumstances - it's just another part of the hype cycle they've deliberately created.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

Scott's one of the rubes I was talking about I think.

I think there's a difference though, i don't think it's a case of ''get on board or be left behind!!'' it's seeing the reality of this technology unfold in front of us and what is already happening in terms of job losses because of it.

The dot com bubble wasn't really a bubble in the sense that the technology collapsed and we went back to a way of life that predated the internet. I do agree there is a bubble, there's going to be a massive economic crash and you're going to see loads of AI companies going burst and falling away but the technology doesn't go away and you're going to have a new generation of powerhouses coming through that dictate the new norms of how society operates. Not just a case of it will be there in some way or another it's going to be as prevalent as the internet is.


Evil bastards like Palantir who are now embedded into western governments are a huge problem and they're not going away. I'm not so worried about what the likes of china do with the technology i'm worried about what the people we've given access to our own government systems do with it

[1500 Dollars a Day]

I read all about it yesterday as it is being pushed so aggressively on Twitter. My point about Chat GPT was more a wider discussion of what the general public has access to isn't very good and even that costs so much in resources to supply.

If Anthropic has built a model that is so dangerous it has to be contained, then imagine what China and other state actors can do. I don't know how people have the capacity to worry about yet another thing in today's world. Let alone something none of us really understand. A lot of these AI leaders are absolute conmen so you have to be wary about what we are being told as well.

I fucking hate AI.

Other countries don't have the same access to hardware that nvidia provides to the US though. They have powerful models and they have roundabout ways of accessing the same hardware but it's a lot more difficult for them to keep up in this race with the restrictions nvidia has on exporting to the rest of the world. It's why you're starting to see efficiency being favoured over raw power (chinese deepseek for example) but even then the baw is in the court of who controls the worlds chips and for now that is US/taiwan/nvidia.

It will come for them though, if the technology exists then they will eventually gain access to it but the US companies are very much at the forefront of AI for now.

I hate it as well

[Imaq]

I think there's a difference though, i don't think it's a case of ''get on board or be left behind!!'' it's seeing the reality of this technology unfold in front of us and what is already happening in terms of job losses because of it.

The dot com bubble wasn't really a bubble in the sense that the technology collapsed and we went back to a way of life that predated the internet.  I do agree there is a bubble, there's going to be a massive economic crash and you're going to see loads of AI companies going burst and falling away but the technology doesn't go away and you're going to have a new generation of powerhouses coming through that dictate the new norms of how society operates.  Not just a case of it will be there in some way or another it's going to be as prevalent as the internet is.


Evil bastards like Palantir who are now embedded into western governments are a huge problem and they're not going away.  I'm not so worried about what the likes of china do with the technology i'm worried about what the people we've given access to our own government systems do with it

I agree with this to the extent that all of these things are choices - there's very little public appetite for any of this to happen, but it is the route that people in power want to follow. I think that's a continuation of trends that predate AI more than it's anything inherent to the tech itself, however. Making this a discussion about the specific dangers of AI misses the more important point about how embedded big tech is in our governments. If you could get rid of AI tomorrow that'd still be the case.

On job losses, what I find frustrating here is that this could be imagined in a much more emancipatory way. We probably don't need a lot of the jobs that exist currently. If automation could stop us from having to do them, that could be a good thing. The 9-5 workday is historically situated - there's no inherent reason why we need to be working that much, so we could imagine a world in which we all just spend a bit less time working for its own sake and have more time for other pursuits. This was the original promise of automation. Instead, all we're hearing about is how people are going to be forced into poverty. That, again, is a political choice.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

I agree with this to the extent that all of these things are choices - there's very little public appetite for any of this to happen, but it is the route that people in power want to follow. I think that's a continuation of trends that predate AI more than it's anything inherent to the tech itself, however. Making this a discussion about the specific dangers of AI misses the more important point about how embedded big tech is in our governments. If you could get rid of AI tomorrow that'd still be the case.

On job losses, what I find frustrating here is that this could be imagined in a much more emancipatory way. We probably don't need a lot of the jobs that exist currently. If automation could stop us from having to do them, that could be a good thing. The 9-5 workday is historically situated - there's no inherent reason why we need to be working that much, so we could imagine a world in which we all just spend a bit less time working for its own sake and have more time for other pursuits. This was the original promise of automation. Instead, all we're hearing about is how people are going to be forced into poverty. That, again, is a political choice.

Don't disagree with this either and you're probably right about the tech follows trends set way before AI existed. These guys are so ''optimisation'' focused to a terrifying level that they see humans as a problem to be fixed rather than using their tech to serve humans. AI in the basic sense speeds things up but it's speeding things up to a ridiculous level. It obviously happened with the industrial revolution, it happened with the internet age so it's not something we've not dealt with before but i'm no 100% sure the digital systems we live with are equipped to deal with what could be coming.

I agree with the second part too that there's no reason this tech couldn't be used to let us live a more freeing life - but a freeing life doesn't deliver shareholders short term profits and that's ultimately one of the core reasons these businesses exist in the first place. I think it's one of the things i'm most confused about because surely if you game this out to its conclusion, folk lose their jobs, the right wing governments in control have absolutely smashed any reality of socialist safety nets to help people through this stuff, poverty sky rockets, folk have no money to take part in consumerism - how the fuck do these companies continue to operate?

It's potentially the correct tech but entirely the wrong governments. We all know the utopia of AI doing all the pish so we can be creative and spend more time doing things we actually enjoy with our friends and family is a pipedream so when it goes the other way how do these huge tech companies continue to keep taking from us when there's little left to take?